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Live chat transcript from 10/26/2014 (slightly edited by NL)
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Nina: WELCOME to our 2015 moderators/coordinators here for the week 1 wrapup and demo on how to use HOA for more than 10 people.
Reminding you that Week 2 begins tomorrow! There's lots to do--check it out at http://evo-training.pbworks.com/w/page/5965200/Week2
Vance Stevens hi
Jens kjaer Olsen Hi from Jens Olsen - copenhagen
nina.liakos Hi Jens
John Graney Hi, on chatwing,
nina.liakos Welcome, John. We still have room in the hangout, if you would like to join us there
Alfonso Perfferle This is the chat?
Vance Stevens yes it is
educatingellen Ellen from Morelia, Mexico is here
John Graney Thought I would try outside the hangout to see how it works.
Vance Stevens hi ellen
nina.liakos Good idea, John
nina.liakos Hi Ellen
educatingellen I am also outside the link so I can try this new thingy a little at a time
nina.liakos It’s a bit complex!
Alfonso Perfferle Hola! :)
John Graney Yes it is, but it will be so for our participants too.
educatingellen Exactly, John.
nina.liakos Welcome, Alfonso - Are you all listening to the stream?
Alfonso Perfferle Thank you Nina
Jeff Magoto Greetings all! Jeff Magoto from Oregon. Nice to see this expansion of Hangouts!
educatingellen One step at a time
nina.liakos Hey Jeff! Welcome - Jeff, John, Ellen, do you have the video stream on?
Jeff Magoto yes!
An Nowak I entered PB works and it works
nina.liakos Welcome Ann
educatingellen Can we put up our pictures after having signed in? One step at a time, but can I go back....video stream? I can see who is talking yes, is that video stream?
nina.liakos The point is, can you hear? You need to start the YouTube stream which is embedded in the Week 1 page
educatingellen Oh yes!
An Nowak I can hear
nina.liakos Great
Alfonso Perfferle Ohhh, I thought That I arrived late to be in the hang out
nina.liakos :-( I logged in with my ChatWing account and must not have a photo there
No, you can go over there if you want, Alfonso; come back later
Alfonso Perfferle I am in G+
Jens kjaer Olsen Hi Alfonso!
Alfonso Perfferle Hi Jens! Good to see you
Alfonso Perfferle
nina.liakos Just uploaded my photo - Maybe I have to refresh
Marijana
https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYcWYyast35qA1bqWpihC63pEDbICNeWCSIIZ1kwMYmvWOfbIw?authuser=0&hl=en (Link to google+ hangout)Hi all! :))))
Jeff Magoto Great to learn about both Chatwing and this interaction with hangouts -- still have to finish breakfast!
nina.liakos Trying again - nope it didn't work :-(
Marijana Ok Jeff, hope you join later :) I also like to learn about new tools
nina.liakos You can see my beautiful face in the hangout
educatingellen Nina, how did you upload the photo? I cannot find the link
nina.liakos Ellen, I have a Chatwing account at chatwing.com. I went to my profile and uploaded a photo but it hasn't shown up here
educatingellen Why doesn't your foto appear in the chatwing? I just registered and uploaded from my Google account, so shouldn't the foto be included?
nina.liakos Maybe it requires a re-login, but that did not help in my case
educatingellen It didn't help in my case either. Later. Thanks. There is a lot to play with
nina.liakos I once took a Coursera MOOC where they used Hangouts for "office hours". I don't know how they managed it. Maybe Coursera has a special deal with Google.
Alfonso Perfferle It is working great and I am surprised that works pretty good from my phone.
Jeff Magoto Nina, I think Coursera and other Moocs just recommend Hangouts because they're viewed as m. accessible to folks than BB Collaborate or Adobe Conect.
nina.liakos But the problem is the same, if they are limited to only 10 people. They were using hangouts to broadcast office hour chats to 1000s of people, so they must have done something
Jeff Magoto Correct -- and I assume like other Google tools, China and other places get left out.
nina.liakos Yes, that is a sad thing. We do not often have Chinese participants in EVO but our choice to use Google effectively bars them from joining. It's something mod teams should keep in mind when choosing an interactive space (G+ Communities) or synchronous chat space (hangout)
John Graney Can you use Google Hangouts to show your desktop?
nina.liakos I think so, John, at least in theory
Jens kjaer Olsen jep smart to share desktop..!
Marijana Nina, yes, sometimes :) LOL
alfonsoperfferle This is from chatwing
nina.liakos Welcome to Ayat Tawel of ICT4ELT
educatingellen Since the screensharing I have gotten a multiple echo. Is there anything I can do to eliminate it?
nina.liakos Ellen are you in the hangout and the stream simultaneously? That creates interference
educatingellen Oh, that is what is happening? I don't think I am in the hangout
nina.liakos I can't think what else might cause it--it happens sometime
Ayat Tawel Hi everyone !!
nina.liakos Welcome Ayat
Marijana Maybe try to refresh the page and see what happens! Hi Ayat ;) yeey
Ayat Tawel Here I am !!
nina.liakos Ellen, does that solve the problem?
John Graney no echo now
educatingellen I didn't do anything and like John, no echo now. Thanks. Wonder what happened...
Ayat Tawel Bye Marijana
educatingellen John, did you have an echo also?
John Graney Bye Marijana
Jeff Magoto Vance et.al, maybe I missed this, but if EVOs have access to learning2gether, why not use it for chats?
Alfonso Perfferle Bye bye
nina.liakos Leaving so soon, Alfonso?
Alfonso Perfferle Not yet
nina.liakos @Jeff, what do you mean "it"?
John Graney I see it
nina.liakos @John, you see the ppt in the stream?
John Graney I see it on the youtube feed
nina.liakos Ayat says in HOA chat:
Ayat Tawel 10:37 AM: It's strange that people in the live stream can see it, and people in the hangout can't !!"
educatingellen I still have a multiple echo and I wonder if it is due to the router system for Internet in Mexico....
nina.liakos maybe, Ellen. I thought it had gone away
Jeff Magoto we see the slideshow
educatingellen Everything is on repeaters and this has effected my online performance on WiZiQ also. It has always affected other Google Hangouts I have tried to work with
Ayat Tawel Did you try using the headset, Ellen ?
Jeff Magoto we're back to you!
educatingellen I don't have a headset, sorry
John Graney Nina is selected now, got her photo.
Jens kjaer Olsen just testing...also with my ipad.....
Elizabeth Anne Hi Folks, I'm just in from Sunday lunch :-)
educatingellen I see everything on the youtube feed
nina.liakos A headset is the ONE THING I bought when I joined webheads. Hi EA!
Robert Wachman Hi
educatingellen Hello Robert
nina.liakos Hi Robert
Jeff Magoto Hi Robert.
John Graney got the slide now
nina.liakos Robert is not with EVO, right Robert?
Robert Wachman Right, I just want to learn a bit more about Hangouts On Air
nina.liakos You are welcome, Robert
educatingellen Actually, toggling up and down we can see the slideshow and be in the chatbox also. It's great for hyperactive people like me.
Robert Wachman Thanks, Nina.
Robert Wachman I've fairly recently joined Webheads, and Vance invited everyone to watch
nina.liakos We are delighted that you are here, Robert. Most people here are EVO moderators or coordinators, but not everyone
Elizabeth Anne I'm having no end of problem with my machine :-(
An Nowak You are right Nina. And when there are technical problems and questions you can't pay attention to all.
nina.liakos So sorry about that EA
John Graney I agree with Nina.
An Nowak I am in the hangout watching the slides and in the PB works chatting.
nina.liakos Really, Ann? I don't see you in the actual hangout
nina.liakos Week 2 tasks at http://evo-training.pbworks.com/w/page/5965200/Week2
An Nowak I am watching
Maria Colussa Hi all! Just arriving, so sorry I´m late but here I am
Ayat Tawel Hi Maria
Maria Colussa I will just watch Hi A!
educatingellen I also agree with Nina. In other synchronous tools the chatbox appears right next to the visual, but here two people would be helpful
Vance Stevens hi maria
Ayat Tawel So, we can watch the slides in the live stream and chat here !! All this will be recorded
Vance Stevens that's correct, it's all recorded
Elizabeth Anne The pron team have a super logo on their G+C :-)
Vance Stevens link?
educatingellen Q= will the chatbox appear on the recording?
Vance Stevens not in the recording but it's here forever (so far)
John Graney Thanks for the link
nina.liakos Rosmery Ribera of IWE is in the hangout
Jens kjaer Olsen 😊🌍 smart with my ipad only up for chat.....and my pc only for the hangout.....then i can better handle things .....or have 2nd screen ....
An Nowak :-)
Vance Stevens i have a second screen
Ayat Tawel So, I think this chat is the one that we should use , as it's the one we can use later or share with participants !!
Jens kjaer Olsen Hi Ann ren vinter time tonight!
nina.liakos Yes, Ayat, it is saved.
An Nowak Ja, jansBut 9 is ok
Ayat Tawel But I think we will still have to have the three of them together (G+hangout, live stream and this chatwing !!)
nina.liakos yep
Elizabeth Anne AND a weekly email ... Very important tooetextbook that is
Maria Colussa I did Shelley´s session and Google plus made us feel very comfortable
nina.liakos Email could be difficult with a large group of participants
educatingellen About the echo: I just got a headset...still have an echo.
John Graney Agree about Shelley's session.
An Nowak We used google+ last time and that was ok.
Elizabeth Anne Ellen - do you have the video on? as well as the hangout that is
nina.liakos @Ellen :-(
An Nowak We have all things there SL
educatingellen I have the video off and still have an echo
Maria Colussa The separation e.g., General Discussion, Week 1 / 2 / 3... helped us get oriented and see each others´materials , also it was easy to comment on each other´s work
Vance Stevens want to come in the HoA Maria?
nina.liakos Hi Maria C
educatingellen I can deal with it as a listener, but if we use a Google hangout in IWE I think I will have difficulties as a moderator
An Nowak Yes, I know the feeling Nina
Maria Colussa my camera doesn´t work
Vance Stevens ahhh
nina.liakos I am in the hangout w/o video, Maria
Jeff Magoto If EVOs have access to learning2gether, why not use it for synchronous chats? Have people gone off Collaborate?
Vance Stevens no, collaborate is available
nina.liakos @Jeff, again, what do you mean by "it"? The L2gether wiki?
We used BB Collaborate for our chat yesterday
Jeff Magoto Thanks, Nina.
Vance Stevens I can understand the association :-)
Ayat Tawel Thank you everyone for that useful hangout !! I believe we have learnt a lot today !! Will have to go now !! See you in G+
nina.liakos We have not gone off it by any means but we want moderators to explore the various choices
Vance Stevens bye ayat
nina.liakos Bye Ayat. Thanks for coming
An Nowak The bell on the left in google + has to be grey.
Jens kjaer Olsen Thanks for notification info.......
Vance Stevens ElizA's knowledge on G+ is much appreciated
Jeff Magoto Thanks everyone. You've more than piqued my curiosity about HOA, and probably convinced me that Collaborate is the tool I'd rather use for synchronous. A good creative tension!
Elizabeth Anne I can never get in to a G+c on my computer -- only on my mobile - my machine is a bit old
Jens kjaer Olsen 😊
An Nowak Thank you for the talk
John Graney Thank you to everyone. This session was very helpful.
An Nowak Jens, cu l8r
Maria Colussa hahaha!
educatingellen I'm looking forward to listening to the hour without the echo.
Maria Colussa sound is ok from here
educatingellen This session was very helpful and I will try to get this ironed out for other sessions
Jens kjaer Olsen ann you tell me later!
An Nowak yes
John Graney Bye all
Maria Colussa
I used to love HG until it started to ignore my camera on this computer, now I´m angry with it!
Elizabeth Anne Ellen - it's a good idea to try a straight group call, before goin on air imho
Jens kjaer Olsen 15..... I think..... (participants allowed in Skype group chat)
Elizabeth Anne Yep - that's what happened to me Maria - annoying isn't it :-(
nina.liakos Coordinator-Moderator Mbarek Akaddar has joined the hangout. Welcome, Mbarek!
Mbarek is a moderator for ICT4ELT
alfonsoperfferle ★☆
Maria Colussa If you need to test any tool feel free to contact me find me on twitter @mariacolussa or skype ID mariacolussa (add that you want to check the tool to the contact request)
nina.liakos from HOA chat:
mbarek akaddar 11:11 AM - Hi all ! I have been on a wrong link with Nellie and Rosemery
educatingellen I have been using HoG with some online sessions here in Mexico and although I like it, most of my students do not like it
Maria Colussa why don´t they like it?
nina.liakos HoG = HOA?
Maria Colussa plus adobe I can´t find the pause button
educatingellen People in my state who take my courses are stuck o hotmail.....
Maria, So they are already outside of their zone of comfort. These sessions are locally done
nina.liakos I have left the hangout. Are there any questions here before I sign out?
Jens kjaer Olsen Thanks see you bye,
nina.liakos Bye Jens, thanks for coming :-)
educatingellen Thanks for this opportunity to know HoA Bye now. Thanks Vance
Maria Colussa mmmm so sorry to hear that about students I thought that it was only my students!
educatingellen LOL! Bye everyone!
nina.liakos Bye Ellen, thanks for coming
Maria Colussa see you! bye all! it was good to see you!
nina.liakos Bye Maria!
Elizabeth Anne Hey - If you look at the settings wheel here, it offers "activate sound???"
nina.liakos I activated it--what does that mean? aha I just got a little bell when I posted that last message. I think if you have the window hidden you can monitor whether or not someone has added to the chat that way like Skype or FB chat
Elizabeth Anne I don't know, ... YES - that's it LOL. I'm trying to find a way of saving this chat
nina.liakos It doesn't go away. You can see different conversations going way back if you scroll up before we started here today
Elizabeth Anne I think it'll disappear when Vance uses chatwing again. OK - but then that's not totally great to save is it?
nina.liakos When I just tried to see those messages it froze on me. I think just click and drag and copy, yes? Shall I try, or will you? Vance may come here and remove this momentarily
I think we can find it again but let's grab it while we have it
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